In this early episode of The Living Experiment podcast (which I co-host with my friend Dallas Hartwig, of Whole30 fame), I introduce the concept of Healthy Deviance.
We recorded this in 2017. Years later, just before my book — The Healthy Deviant — was published in January of 2020, Dallas and I recorded a more in-depth episode with updates and a solid overview of my book’s key parts: “Healthy Deviance 2.”
You can find full show notes for this episode and access additional The Living Experiment podcast episodes here.







